A British newspaper, The Observer, said last week about Irish economist Morgan Kelly of University College Dublin: “Kelly . . . was laughed at, scorned and even threatened when he correctly predicted, as long ago as 2007, that Ireland's property bubble was heading for a spectacular explosion. Now he is forecasting mass mortgage defaults and an ugly popular uprising. The first stirrings are already visible, he says, with ‘anxiety giving way to the first upwellings of an inchoate rage and despair that will transform Irish politics . . .’”
“People are angry,” said a middle-aged custom-guitar maker I met in an O’Connell Street pub, “very angry - and they can’t express that directly at the ballot box the way Americans did last week. They vote directly on government only every seven years, and the last election was two years ago.”
“There could be a vote of ‘no confidence’ though, right?” I suggested. “That would bring elections sooner, wouldn’t it?”
“Yes, but it would require a vote by the MPs, not ordinary people.” He seemed to be suggesting that another kind of protests might occur in the interim, but he had to go meet someone at that point, and I couldn’t ask him.
“Uh-huh. But then taxpayers wouldn’t be on the hook for banker foolishness. Investors and depositors would - but they’re the ones who chose to put their money into those particular banks, right? So, oh well.”
He paused and looked as if he were just considering that option for the first time. “Yes, that might have been possible,” he said, “but government did step in - as it had to - and here we are.”
I snapped a photo of patrons on the sidewalk as I was leaving. One government type turned his head around and said, “Come over here, will you?” He seemed much like politicians in America: dark suit, sharply-creased pants, long black or navy blue long woolen coat, hair spray, and an arrogant manner. “I own that image,” he said.
“Angela Merkel?” I said.

“Yeah, her, if she is a woman a’tall. We thought you were a journalist.” I thought it prudent not to mention that I was a columnist in America.
“No worries,” I said, and he patted my shoulder. His arrogant friend walked back inside without speaking. We chatted like old buddies for a while until I went on my way.
In the hotel bar where I was staying, I had a brief conversation with the hotel-owner’s son and I made the same suggestion: that the Irish government should have just let the banks fail and refuse to bail them out. “But then a lot of ordinary people would lose their money,” he said.
“Uh-huh,” I said, and he looked at me like I was Ebenezer Scrooge. “What’s the unemployment rate in Ireland?” I asked him.
“Somewhere around 13% I think,” he said.
“Wow,” I said. “That’s higher than the official rate in America. If people are laid off, does government provide them with assistance?” I asked.
“Oh yes,” he said. “Of course.”
“Well,” I said, “In our country someone ‘collects unemployment checks’ as we put it, but those checks run out after 99 weeks.”
He looked appalled. “But what will people do then?” he asked.
“Scrounge around for work,” I said. “Rely on family - on the kindness of strangers - whatever they can,” I said.
“But how will they make their mortgage payments?” he asked.
“Any way they can, or face foreclosure.”

The custom-guitar maker said, “With this crisis, we Irish are only proving we’re incapable of governing ourselves. There are tough times ahead.”
4 comments:
I had no Idea that Ireland was in its own "Housing Bubble". The last I heard the Government had lowered its Corporate income tax and businesses were relocating there and their economy was starting to thrive. What is the outlook as far as you know or heard for their future? Paul, Lovell
It looks like a fairly long recovery period. Government is cutting back as I said, but the rest of the EU, especially Germany under Merkel, is trying to impose an EU bailout on Ireland.
Ireland has the lowest corporate tax rate in Europe, which has enticed US firms to locate there instead of in France or Germany. Germany wants to force Ireland to raise its rate as high as the rest of Europe's so it won't have that unique draw on non-European investment. Ireland is resisting.
How will this turn out? Don't know. Nobody seems to, but so far, the Irish people seem to want to just sit tight.
An interesting article on this topic:
Irish Sovereignty on the Brink
http://tinyurl.com/36jc696
Interesting Tom, although your suggestion of letting the banks fail to keep the tax payers off the hook is flawed and would not work much in the same way it would not work here in the states. Banks are insured and guess who insures them... tax payers. All deposits in Irish banks are covered by the Irish Deposit Guarantee Scheme (DGS), to the tune of €100,000 per person, per institution.
After the deregulation damage is done its very difficult to correct. Anglo Irish Bank denounced bank regulation as “corporate McCarthyism. That’s not worked out well for the average Irish men…
Celtic Tiger was widely celebrated for the combination of low tax rates, fast growth, and open business policies. Not so much anymore. I’m not one for more government spending but I strongly believe we need more regulation of the banking industry. Nate,Portland
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