Thursday, November 01, 2018

Left & Right October 24, 2018



We start by defining and discussion nationalism. I liken it to patriotism and opposite to globalism. Gino says it's associated with KKK and Nazi sympathies. I bring up the caravan and accuse Democrats of peddling open borders under the guise of abolishing ICE. I claim Democrats and some Republicans want to maintain the law requiring border guards to allow those seeking refugee status into the country where they disappear and never show up for a hearing. Gino doesn't think the caravan is supported by Democrats. He thinks Trump and Pence started it. I ask Gino how many illegals from elsewhere in the world should be allowed in. He doesn't answer. He speaks of a labor shortage that would favor allowing illegals in. I claim doing so depresses wages for working-class Americans. We analyze House and Senate races around the country, pretty much according to the way RealClearPolitics does. I claim there are no moderate Democrats in the Senate, that they all vote the party line. Gino claims many go against Chuck Schumer​ but cannot name any. I name several Republican senators who have voted against Trump and McConnell.

39 comments:

Dawn said...

Just by reading your summary and not watching your program, it sounds like a typical conversation with a person on the left. They make claims but cannot back it up. Feelings without the facts is not a good place to be in when you're in a debate situation.

Anonymous said...

Words of wisdom from the late Charles Krauthammer:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/06/19/krauthammer_gives_prager_u_commentary_build_the_wall.html

Brian said...

Two questions for Tom.

1) what percentage of Democratic Congressmen or Senators have expressed support for open borders? Probably the same percent that want to take away your guns.

2) How is the caravan supported by Democrats?

Jay said...

What percentage of democrats favor Sanctuary City’s? What percentage of democrats have railed against republicans when it comes to illegal immagration? Was it democrats or republicans who screamed about separating children from their parents at the border even though the policy was started by Clinton?

Jay said...

There’s one true test to prove that democrats support the “caravan” and are for illegal immigration:
If it were proved that all illegal immigrants were going to vote Republican, there would be a mile high wall stretching all the way around the country, even going up and down the coasts. It would be fortified by guns, tanks and the Death Star. It would be electrified with 100,000 volts and if you DID somehow make it over the wall, you’d be sent to a black ops prison, never to be heard from again.

Brian said...

So, you couldn't answer either question. No answer at all was given to the first, and only some silly outlandish fantasy that was supposed to "prove" the second. You have a lot to learn about what real proof is, among other things.

Staying inside your bubble and avoiding the real news leads to dopey comments such as "separating children from their parents at the border was started by Clinton"


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/21/blog-posting/no-bill-clinton-law-separating-families/

Educate yourself.

Brian said...

What a pathetic and disgusting excuse for a human Trump is. Hours after the horrific mass murder at a synagogue the self-centered cretin is blasting Pharell’s “Happy” song at a rally? Really? Then the little brat goes on to whine about the two terrorist events having “slowed the momentum” for Republicans in the mid-terms. Holy crap! We also got to see how the alt-right gets ideas about “unfairness” by the media. Trump actually complained about his name being linked to both terrorists (duh, one went to your rallies and the other voiced his support for you before getting angry at you for not exterminating the Jews), then whining it was unfair because Obama’s name was not connected to the Dylann Roof terrorism. Huh? Um…..because Roof would never go near an Obama rally, unless it was to terrorize it. I now see the “logic” being used to try and make your case against the media.

Jay said...

Semi modern uber grandstander
SMUG

In this modern era of hyper communications we seem to be fixated on news. Unfortunately news doesn’t always agree with itself. Many formerly trustworthy news outlets have slipped into partisan positions.
What’s worse is now you can find somewhere on the internet something from somewhere to substantiate almost any claim. Ideologues will use these nuggets to prove their points and include trusty little links to these claims.
Far worse is the tactics of the left to try to make anyone who disagrees with them to appear wrong headed or partisan themselves. I call this SMUG.
Instead of arguing a point or discussing a topic or answering a question the poster merely tries to denigrate and provides links to Snopes or some other such tripe.
The over-the-top hate expressed by some of these SMUG people is outlandish in its scope and cause. It is fueled by extreme left wing bias from the former news outlets that are now merely puppets of the democrat party.
Very sad.

Brian said...

Blah blah goes the guy who was shown to be wrong about Clinton starting the border policy and couldn't give any evidence to support his made up claim.

Jay said...

Blah blah blah goes the guy who hasn’t answered one single question I’ve posed to him. B/S, you’re only tactic is to try to change the argument by trying to denigrate who you’re arguing with because you have no facts. You are so stuck in your little left wing socialist propaganda bubble that you only know hate and lies.
Very sad, still.

Brian said...

FACT: I asked the first questions, you could not answer them. All you could do was throw out a claim that you were unable to back up with any facts. Because you can't.

Brian said...

OK, even though you have been too wimpy to try and answer mine, here are answers to yours:

1) What percentage of democrats favor Sanctuary City’s?

“Opposition to the sanctuary city policies crossed the political spectrum, and included 73 percent of Democrats, 82 percent of Republicans and 71 percent of independents.”
https://news.berkeley.edu/2015/09/04/igs-poll-californians-oppose-sanctuary-city-flexibility/

2) What percentage of democrats have railed against republicans when it comes to illegal immagration?

Probably all of them disagreed with the separation of infants from their mothers.

3) Was it democrats or republicans who screamed about separating children from their parents at the border even though the policy was started by Clinton?

That question was already shown be wrong. It was not started by Clinton. If you have evidence that it was then let’s see it.

There, that wasn’t so hard. But I can see why you and Tom hide from the question about open borders. It messes with your whole false talking point.

Jay said...

When Kavanaugh was being attacked by the left and the media (same thing), leftists were actually making little commercials saying that they believed Ford. Even before any evidence was heard from either side. Hmmmmmm...
Obama or any leftist can now make any claim, no matter how outrageous and most leftists will automatically believe it. They are like little birds in a nest opening their mouths to swallow whatever the momma bird brings.
As to the Trump administration reinforcing policies regarding children at the border to try to ensure the children’s safety from coyotes and child traffickers, I understand. Democrats see the separation as an in humane policy because they’ve been told to. Even though these policies are put into place to keep these kids safe democrats don’t seem to understand the common sense behind it.
Nowhere have I heard any leftist anger regarding those children who have been separated from their lives by abortion. This genocide has been going on for years and yet today there are leftists marching in the streets carrying signs that say things like “the only good baby is a dead baby”
So common sense will tell you that the whole separating children at the border is merely a leftist ploy to gin up anger toward the current administration.
Regarding B/S’s link that claims so many democrats and republicans both oppose sanctuary cities, then why do they still exist? Again, common sense. Who is allowing this to continue? Not republicans. I guarantee that.
An oberservation: I have discussion with many people, left and right. In all of these discussions I have found that those on the left seem to be very similar. They all sound alike. Very smug. Very full of themselves. It’s remarkable. When they are losing an argument, (it’s hard to argue with the truth) they resort to personal attacks. It’s their playbook.
Their new campaign should be, “Vote Democrat. be Smug!”
Democrats will believe anything these days. They seem to lack common sense. They have become living Monty Python sketches.

Jay said...

Super Militant uber grandstander
SMUG

In this modern era of hyper communications we seem to be fixated on news. Unfortunately news doesn’t always agree with itself. Many formerly trustworthy news outlets have slipped into partisan positions.
What’s worse is now you can find somewhere on the internet something from somewhere to substantiate almost any claim. Ideologues will use these nuggets to prove their points and include trusty little links to these claims.
Far worse is the tactics of the left to try to make anyone who disagrees with them to appear wrong headed or partisan themselves. I call this SMUG.
Instead of arguing a point or discussing a topic or answering a question the poster merely tries to denigrate and provides links to Snopes or some other such tripe.
The over-the-top hate expressed by some of these SMUG people is outlandish in its scope and cause. It is fueled by extreme left wing bias from the former news outlets that are now merely puppets of the democrat party.
Very sad.

Brian said...

Wow, was that a lot of blabbering which STILL did not answer the question! And STILL gave no evidence that Clinton started the separation policy. Embarrassed by the fact that you were duped like a baby bird into eating up the Clinton lie, you ridiculously change tact and tried to defend the policy! I nearly spit out my lunch when I saw you were going with a coyote defense!!

Pretty hilarious that you make personal attacks against the liberals you supposedly talk to, saying that they make personal attacks instead of giving facts...while you give no facts!!

You fell for the fake news of "Clinton started it", then claim that it is the left that believes everything. You are getting more and more entertaining to read!

Brian said...

Oh, and there is no person on the planet more smug than Trump.

Jay said...

And there you have it folks....

And speaking of SMUG, anybody happen to see video of Obama’s latest little rallyette tour? He has gone WAY off the deep end IMHO. The things he’s saying, his body language, facial expressions, etc etc.
He goes out and rails against what Trump is doing, then he takes claim for it. Watching him is like watching, well, a liberal democrat. He’s screaming his little SMUG fantasies so loud he’s losing his voice. In the background I hear 50 people cheering. Must be very sad for him, who thinks of himself as The Messiah to know that he can’t draw even a tenth of the crowd that our President does.
I really don’t understand a man who was once President of the United States going out and bad mouthing the current President. It’s unseemly and unproductive. Worse yet, as with almost all of Obama and the democrats, he says nothing about what the democrats want to do. He has no vision. Democrats are running on hate. They offer nothing but hate. Back in 07 all Obama offered was “Change”. No clear idea of what that was or what or how he was was going to change. Just change. Empty words from a puppet man to an ideologically empty party.

Brian said...

Again, a lot of words but NO facts, just opinions. And still unable to answer questions...because that would involve using what you seem to be afraid of....facts.

You might have blown your cover with that coyote joke...did you get it from The Onion? You seem to be brilliantly playing a character like Colbert used to play, one that pretends to be an over-the-top alt-righter in order to make them look dopey.

Brian said...

Just checked out the transcript for Obama's speech. It seems to be a vision for the country.

"Out of the turmoil of the industrial revolution and the Great Depression, America adapted a new economy, a 20th century economy – guiding our free market with regulations to protect health and safety and fair competition, empowering workers with union movements; investing in science and infrastructure and educational institutions like U of I; strengthening our system of primary and secondary education, and stitching together a social safety net. And all of this led to unrivaled prosperity and the rise of a broad and deep middle class in the sense that if you worked hard, you could climb the ladder of success. Each time we painstakingly pull ourselves closer to our founding ideals, that all of us are created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights; the ideals that say every child should have opportunity and every man and woman in this country who's willing to work hard should be able to find a job and support a family and pursue their small piece of the American Dream; our ideals that say we have a collective responsibility to care for the sick and the infirm, and we have a responsibility to conserve the amazing bounty, the natural resources of this country and of this planet for future generations"

It goes on on on. But take a look back at all of your last posts. Nothing but bad things to say about the left, just a lot of unproductive negativity. You seem to be the most bitter, hateful person, yet hypocritically you rail against others who you pretend are doing the same.

Facts, jay. I would be glad to discuss any issue with you that concerns facts. Lets start with one of your fantasies....tell me some fact that you think I have been hood-winked into believing by the "biased" media that is not true.

I'll wait.

Jay said...

I really don’t like the fact that this whole blog has turned into an argument between you Brian/Spartacus, or B/S for short, and I.
So let’s get at it...
Your opinion that my last two post contain no facts is erroneous. Everything I said is true. Prove me wrong, if you can find some left wing rag that will support your hate filled leftist opinion. Your opinion carries little weight with me as you sound like every other left wing hate filled person I’ve heard from. And the SMUG is strong with you as well.
As yet you haven’t proved a thing. Your quaint links are merely echo chamber falsehoods that you and every other liberal who can’t think for themselves points to. If you think you are being clever or are unique, you are in error again. You are an NPC.
Quoting Obama’s speech proves my point once again, thank you very much. Nothing new or different here. Just Obama opening his mouth to hear himself talk and let his acolytes gush about it. No plan for the future. No nothing. Empty words from an empty puppet.
So this whole exchange is based on you claiming that I know nothing and you know everything and then I reply that you are in error. No matter what, I’m afraid that is going to be the best it’s going to be between us B/S.
I don’t take well to groundless charges and gaslighting. You don’t take well to common sense and reality. We are both set in our ways and that’s not going to change. No matter how SMUG you are or how many insults you hurl at me or any other conservative thinker on this blog, you are always going to think you’re the smartest guy in the room. A liberal trait, I’m afraid.
Fact: liberalism has failed every time it’s been tried.
Fact: democrats have handled themselves very very badly in the last 2 years. Did I say 2? I meant 50.
Fact: today’s democrat party is the most corrupt it has ever been.
Fact: Donald Trump has done more good for this country in the last two years then the last 3 administrations put together.
Fact: the mainstream media is biased.
Fact: you can get more factual news by Watching Fox or listening to Rush Limbaugh in one day then a month of MSM.
Fact: you have never watched a Trump speech end to end.
Fact: you have never seen Fox New Special Report at 6:00.
Fact: you have never listened to an entire Rush Limbaugh show.

Brian said...

Are you putting me on or do you really not know the definition between a fact and an opinion?

I'll wait.

Jay said...

Apparently one of us does, and it ain’t you.
I’ll wait.

Brian said...

Hopefully you have looked these words up by now, but here are some clear examples.

Fact: Trump is President.
Opinion: Trump is a joke.

Fact: Trump said “I moved on her like a bitch. I just start kissing I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
Opinion: Trump is an a$$hole.

Fact: Trump said there were good people on both sides, ANTIFA and Nazis.
Opinion: Neither are good. (which I bet we can both agree on)


I acknowledge that my opinions are opinions. I’ll admit to obvious facts. You don’t seem to do be able to do that or to separate the difference between opinion and fact. At least that’s my opinion.

Jay said...

I’m glad to see you’re admitting that your opinions are merely opinions. That’s very good for you. You still seem to be stuck on some issues that you really don’t seem to understand but I’ll give you props for admitting at least that much. Your SMUG level just went down from 10 to 9.8. Again, good for you.
I would like to ask you a question, since it appears that you would rather argue with me then discuss topics on this blog:
How do you square all of the extremely nasty things you said about Kavanaugh just a month ago with what we now know is his complete innocence? You claimed he was just one step shy of the devil and seemed to believe all of the accusations against him. I told you that I believed in innocent until proven guilty.. I told you that the man should be given a chance to defend himself. I also told you that this all looked like a democrat plot to take down an appointment by our President. You said I was a right wing looney, or whatever tripe you used to insult my intelligence. I believe you, like other democrats, thought that this really would end up taking the guy down and you were happy about it. It didn’t matter what the truth was. It didn’t matter that people were convicting the guy in a court of public opinion before any facts were even known.
Democrats.....
And now we find that Kavanaugh WAS innocent and NONE of the claims were true.
Do you know what I hear from other democrats about this? Nothing.
Perhaps you’d like to be the first democrat to admit that you were wrong about the whole thing and were merely a victim of the hate filled media filling your head with lies? Perhaps you’d like to apologize for your vicious words about a good man who is now sitting on the SCOTUS and who deserved none of that? Perhaps you’d like to admit that this was, in the end, merely what I speculated it was, a democrat smear campaign and nothing more?

I’ll wait.

Addressing your other opinions with my own:
Trump is serious. A man, perhaps the only man, who could pull off some of the great things he’s done so far. And there are a lot of great things. Things which you may not be aware of because apparently you only watch left wing news.

I don’t care what Trump did or said when he was just a civilian. I really don’t. Do you care that Obama hung out with terroists who actually bombed places who helped start his campaign or went to a church where the pastor said God D**n America? Do you care that Obama smoked a lot of weed and drank lots of booze? Our President has never done drugs and doesn’t drink.

Do you care that Trump was trying to diffuse a situation instead of inciting violence like Obama did? You still don’t seem to get that one. At least he didn’t say that if he had a son he might look like Trevon Martin. Some of the stuff Obama said about Ferguson was disgusting and blatant. President Trump tried to end hostility, not divide and incite. Big difference. I live not too far away from where the Zimmerman/Martin thing happened. I was stunned that then President Obama would say some of the things he said about the tragedy that ultimately made things FAR worse. It’s very different when you live very close to these events and have actually walked the very streets where these things happened. Obama had no business at all making things worse as he did. And he only got worse as his sham of a presidency continued.

Brian said...

"How do you square all of the extremely nasty things you said about Kavanaugh just a month ago with what we now know is his complete innocence?"

This question helps me understand how your spin on things changes your perception. Go back and read those posts. The worst I called him was a "weasel" for how he answered (or didn't answer) the questions. That is "extremely nasty"? I do remember letting you k now that the FBI were indeed allowed to investigate, which turned out to be true. And we certainly don't know if he was innocent or not. If anything, I gave him less benefit of the doubt after his poor performance.

As for the Obama malarky, I don't judge people on who they hang out with, but what they themselves do. Weed and alcohol are not the devil, I don't even judge Kavanaugh rough on that regard. And my opinion is he said nothing wrong with Martin.

Ah, so Trump was "diffusing" a situation by calling some Nazi's very fine people. Got you. And he saved babies from being eaten by coyotes! What a great guy.

You'll spin things however you need to in your mind and will blindly follow the cretin (my opinion) anywhere, even if he shoots a man on 5th avenue. Trump knows he has you.

Brian said...

It is getting a little tiresome answering your questions only to see you evade mine. It seems you have waved the white flag on the matter of the left supporting "open borders". I'll repeat another question as well to see if your earlier comments had any merit to them:

Can you tell me some fact that you think I have been hood-winked into believing by the "biased" media that is not true?

Jay said...

Wow. SMUG is back up to 10.0. Your memory of what you said about Kavanaugh is down. And just exactly what proof do you have that he is/was a weasel? You probably didn’t have a clue who he was until he was put up for SCOTUS. But now he’s a weasel?

“Eaten by Coyotes “? Funny stuff there.

The fact that Obama said what he did resulted in more unrest and some violence in Sanford. Trump chose to diffuse. Simple. If any Republican had been known to associate with the likes of Bill Ayers or the pastor who said God D**n America, they would have been run out of politics by folks from both sides. Apparently democrats don’t care that Obama had nasty friends and his voting record as a senator was dismal, or that he said many things which our current President is saying now only he was applauded for it and Trump is called a racist. Appealing that Obama is trying to gin up hatred for our own President by making incoherent speeches in which he looks like he’s off his meds.

I always thought that Obama could rob a bank, kill the teller, stuff them in his trunk, have it all on video, and democrats would still worship him.

I try to answer all questions unless they’re inane. Some of yours are, in my opinion. You seem to try to bait people without forwarding the conversation.

Not raising a “white flag” on anything. If there were no support for open borders, a wall would be built already. I’ve said this many times before but if it were shown that illegal immigrants were going to vote straight Republican, the wall would have been finished already. Very easy for those of us who live far away from the border to condemn tighter border control. Very easy for us to say, “Let them in. It’s the right thing to do.”

As to how I can prove you’ve been hoodwinked by the media, your own posts prove it.

Question for you: do you support open borders or do you want a wall?

Brian said...

"Your memory of what you said about Kavanaugh is down"

I went and checked...go ahead and try and find something worse yourself and paste it here. Your spin is messing with reality.

Your opinions about Obama are just that, opinions. I am more interested in facts.

There is no middle ground between open borders and a wall??? Really? So the answer to your question is "Neither". See how I answer your questions? But my question about what Democratic senators and congressmen support open borders goes unanswered still. Your white flag flying high.

And I am still waiting on what fact, any fact, just one little fact, that you think I have been hoodwinked into believing. Pick a fact that I posted that is wrong if you can. I think your white flag will be covering this area too.

Brian said...

Your following statement makes it clear that you are still confused about facts and opinions"

"And just exactly what proof do you have that he is/was a weasel?"

It is impossible to have proof that somebody is something subjective, like a weasel. THat is obviously an opinion, which I explained to you, and told you why I have it. Let's review some more facts and opinions.

Fact: Even Fox News pulled a Trump supported ad for being too racist.
Opinion: Trump is racist.

Fact: The song “Happy” was played at a Trump rally just hours after a deadly terrorist attack.
Opinion: Trump lacks any empathy or human decency and cares only about himself and not the American people.

Fact: Trump has bragged about all the following: “I know words; I have the best words.” “No one has more respect for women than me.” “I have the best temperament of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever.” “Nobody reads the Bible more than me.” “No one has done more for people with disabilities than me.” “I am the least racist person you’ve ever encountered.” “I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me.”

Opinion: Trump is the most smug blowhard on earth.

Get it now? Facts are indisputible and can be verified. I gave you some facts and then I gave some opinions formed because of those facts. It's really not that hard to understand.

Jay said...

SMUG level 10 again.

Not confused at all about fact and opinion. I would just assume that if you think he’s a weasel you must have some facts to support that opinion. That’s how rational people draw conclusions. Again, you didn’t have a clue who Kavanaugh was until the hearings. All of your opinions were formed based on main stream media hate and lies.

Because Fox pulled an add makes Trump a racist in your mind? Now there’s a stretch. Have you actually seen the add? I doubt you have. I have. Fact: not racist.

Fact: Trump has done more good in two years then the last three Presidents put together.
Opinion. Trump is doing a great job. No wait, that’s a fact. Ali was a great fighter who also happened to be a blowhard. Do I care? Nope. Trump is doing what he was elected to do. He can toot his own horn all he wants. Nobody toots their own horn more then Obama. He is a self centered blow hard. Just watch his last few speeches. Fact: Obama is a blowhard and he’s losing his little mind. If you can’t glean that ffact rom watching his last few speeches, you are intellectually challenged.

I answer your questions and you claim I haven’t. I give you facts and you give me spin. Then you claim I’m actually the one doing these things. Talking to you is like talking to many liberals, like talking to a wall.

Since you seem to think you have the answers for everything, how about letting us all know what your solution to the illegal immigration problem should be, since you have so craftfully dodged the question and again not answered. Please expound on this issue and enlighten us with your immense wisdom.

It really is amusing how well you obfuscate and spin things. I begin to wonder if you actually believe this tripe you spew or if you’re just having fun getting people to read it. It really is delusional. The tactics are familiar and recognizable and nothing new. A new tact might be in order, but then again it still gives me a laugh or two reading your posts. I feel like a bully in a school yard after knocking your cap off your head. Oh wait, that’s what you said to me in another one of your brilliant posts.

By the way, I saw Rush Limbaugh introduce the President last night in Cape Girardeau. Awesome. Two great men who are serving this country well. Sean Hannity was there too. Another great man. There were tens of thousands in attendance and more outside.
In the speeches Limbaugh and the President gave I found no lies, hatred or racism. Trump has a connection with people that Obama wishes he had. Must be sad for liberals to watch their Messiah Obama fall so far by the weighside. Hopefully, he will become nothing more then he deserves; a footnote in history. A very bad and corrupt foot note. I believe if George Washington we’re alive today he would slap Obama and the Clintons for making a mockery of our Constitution and being the corrupt thieves that they are.

Oh well, gotta go. Busy day today. I will add another vote for red.

Brian said...

I told you...the FACT that he refused to answer some questions I found weasely.

Hmmm, I wonder why Fox did pull the add then.

You say you under stand facts, yet you then say: Fact: Trump has done more good in two years then the last three Presidents put together. That is NOT a fact, that is opinion. How dense can you get? You must have snoozed through the elementary school lesson on the subject.

I showed you evidence of Trump tooting his own horn. You claim Obama did it more. Let's see it. Put up or shut up.

And still no answers to my two simple questions. I love rubbing in that you have given up on this!

Of course you didn't see the lies spouted to you by the idols you blindly follow. You drank up their Kool-Aid.





Jay said...

So becUse Kavanaugh didn’t answer some question you think he’s Weasley? Okay. Check. Got it. Just wanted to clarify that.

Trump HAS done more in two years then his last three predecessors combined. fact. I should clarify for you, more GOOD stuff. Ya know, things Americans want done.

I think Fox didn’t run the add because it was damn intense. As I speculated, you haven’t seen it. Not racist. Just intense.

I don’t have to hold your hand and point you to videos of Obama speeches do I? Surely you can do this for yourself. Look it up. Put yo money where yo mouth is. Especially his last few speeches on his Make America Sorry Again tour. The guy is a full blown narcissist. Always has been. None of the economic woes we experiences were his fault. All GW. And of course he tells us that Trump is ruining this country and then claims it was he who spurred the economic up tic. Narcissism or just lying?

What two questions are you referring to? Please elaborate.

BTW, another republican voter pulled the lever. Ain’t it great? I love my country.

DAWN said...

This is hilarious! You two dudes are cracking me up! Seriously. Back to regularly scheduled programming. Carry on! :)

Brian said...

Yes, that is why I called him a weasel...slinking out of answering questions.

No, saying Trump did more good stuff is 100% NOT a fact, but an opinion. And that is a fact.

Yes, I've seen the ad. Whether or not it is racist is an opinion.

So you can't give examples about Obama being a narcissist like I did for Trump. I knew you couldn't. He inherited a financial disaster and got the ball rolling towards what we are now getting.

AGAIN....

What Democratic senators and congressmen support open borders?

What fact, any fact, just one little fact, can you give that I have been hoodwinked into believing?

Jay said...

I’ll address you diatribe in the order you wrote it:

Slinking out of answering what question? He answered it. You just didn’t like his answer. In your eyes, that makes him a weasel?

Trump Has done more. That’s a fact. The man is unstoppable.

There is no racism in that add. Fact. If you believe there is, please quantify your reasons.

Again, for the 10th time, all you have to do is look at Obama’s speeches. Right there is your reason. Right there is your proof. Have you actually watched an Obama speech? I know they’re difficult to get through. And now he’s even making claim for the uptick in the economy. An Obama speech is all about I, Me, Mine. Donald J Trump talks big and backs it up with action. Obama talked about himself and did nothing but apologize to the world for his crappy old country. Shameful.

I will give Obama and the democrats this: health care. They got it started. It’s a really messed up system but it’s a start. Hopefully republicans can fix it. But at least Obama did that. That was really the only good thing to come out of his eight year farce of a presidency.

And yet again, unless you are having trouble reading what I write, if democrat senators and representatives were not for open borders the wall would have already been built. Common sense dude. The fact that we as yet have no wall is your proof.

The fact that you spew all of this nonsense proves you’ve been duped by the lame stream media. There’s your fact.

A prediction for tonight: There will be another storm if the dems get the House back, even by one seat. There will be ENDLESS crowing about how this is a sign of the end of Trump and the country has turned against him. It will be on every network, except Fox. There will be back slapping and laughing and champagne. All of the liberal pundits will agree that this is the bellwether of republican doom.
Just one seat and I predict this will happen. If it’s more then one seat you will hear the celebration from Washington all the way to Hawaii.
If the dems don’t take back the house, which would be rare in this election cycle, I predict that at least one dem will call for a recount or claim Russian interference or blame Trump somehow. There will be more liberal rioting in the streets and screaming. More liberal celebrities will claim they’re leaving the country but won’t. Antifa will rise up again and destroy property and beat people up.
Either way, democrats will obstruct everything. That’s what they do.

Jay said...

I posted these a few miles back. Just wanted to reiterate them.

Fact: liberalism has failed every time it’s been tried.
Fact: democrats have handled themselves very very badly in the last 2 years. Did I say 2? I meant 50.
Fact: today’s democrat party is the most corrupt it has ever been.
Fact: Donald Trump has done more good for this country in the last two years then the last 3 administrations put together.
Fact: the mainstream media is biased.
Fact: you can get more factual news by Watching Fox or listening to Rush Limbaugh in one day then a month of MSM.
Fact: you have never watched a Trump speech end to end.
Fact: you have never seen Fox New Special Report at 6:00.
Fact: you have never listened to an entire Rush Limbaugh show.

Brian said...

Thank you so much!! I couldn't have dreamed up a better ending to this whole conversation, hilarious reinforcement of your inability to grasp the difference between distinguishing between a fact and an opinion, thus rendering a meaningful conversation based on reality futile!

Have fun with you again on another thread, I'm sure!

Oh, and thanks for the Coyote thing....the best I've come across in a long while!!

Jay said...

What coyote thing?

Jay said...

Darn. Here i was expecting a long winded piece of diatribe, again. I was also expecting you to acknowledge that I answered all of your little questions for you.
Damn....had I known that to shut you up I’d just have to post something that proves I don’t know the difference between facts and opinion, I would have done that a long time ago.
So, to date, I’ve answered all of your ridiculous little snowflake questions. I’ve proven that you are a victim of lame stream media propaganda. I’ve proven that you don’t know how to understand proper English and any thought above a third grade level.
But I really must ask B/S, what the heck are you talking about when you say the coyote thing is the best you’ve come across in some time?
Other then that, have a great day and enjoy yourself, as I’m sure you will. Say hi to the rest of the little snowflakes for me and don’t forget to pray to your pictures of Obama, Marx and Lennin. No, that’s not a comedy team.