tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post2170420083595635962..comments2024-02-14T11:00:03.180-05:00Comments on Tom McLaughlin: Unemployment And Illegal ImmigrantsTom McLaughlinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-53288112264556663952014-02-10T12:55:21.391-05:002014-02-10T12:55:21.391-05:00Poor Tom.Poor Tom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-4549111859444566532014-02-07T11:47:22.664-05:002014-02-07T11:47:22.664-05:00Here is another piece from Salon which totally wip...Here is another piece from Salon which totally wipes out your whole goofy column.<br /><br />http://www.salon.com/2013/12/23/immigrant_families_live_in_fear_while_obama_breaks_a_record_in_deportations/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-81050735025723668582014-02-07T10:05:10.700-05:002014-02-07T10:05:10.700-05:00"Neutral" fact-finding sites? Glenn Gree..."Neutral" fact-finding sites? Glenn Greenwald disagrees:<br /><br />http://www.salon.com/2011/12/05/politifact_and_the_scam_of_neutral_expertise/Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-48424947032944457742014-02-06T20:12:38.094-05:002014-02-06T20:12:38.094-05:00Hmmmm, right wing sites side with Tom. Left leani...Hmmmm, right wing sites side with Tom. Left leaning sites disagree. Neutral fact finding sites also disagree with Tom. <br /><br />I wonder which side is more accurate?<br /><br />lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-15924064280790239152014-02-06T16:01:08.065-05:002014-02-06T16:01:08.065-05:00Tom said "Tea Party Republicans, however, are...Tom said "Tea Party Republicans, however, are in their way. They’re the only friends unemployed Americans have right now."<br /><br />What a crock! Tea Partiers could give a rat's ass about those "lazy" unemployed people. In fact they do all in their power to worsen the situation.<br /><br />They have repeatedly passed bills that would put more Americans out of work. Just look at the facts:<br /><br />Since the tea party took over the U.S. House of Representatives in January 2011, they have pushed legislation which, if enacted, would have added more than 6.5 million additional workers to the unemployment rolls:<br /><br />• The Economic Policy Institute estimates that nearly 1 million jobs would have been lost if their 2011 appropriations bill had been enacted.<br /><br /><br />• And the Ryan Budget they passed, which destroys Medicare and Medicaid, student loan programs and health care research, would put as many as 3 million more workers out of their jobs during the next five years.<br /><br />Thankfully, President Obama and cooler heads in the Senate have kept these job-killing bills from becoming law. But they all passed the tea party-controlled U.S. House of Representatives.<br /><br />Tea party politicians have been ramming through similar misguided bills at the state and local level. Scott Walker in Wisconsin, John Kasich in Ohio, Chris Christie in New Jersey and Rick Scott in Florida are just a few of the elected officials who have pushed policies to put people out of work. All of them turned down federal funding for transportation projects that could have produced hundreds of thousands of jobs. And they have ruthlessly cut budgets rather than ask billionaires in their states to pay their fair share of taxes. Their actions are hurting job creation, even in the private sector. As economist Adam Hirsch noted on the website Think Progress last month: “States that cut spending are seeing significantly more job losses in the private sector than states maintaining or increasing spending levels.”<br /><br />In the last Congress, tea party Republicans consistently voted to increase unemployment. In August of 2010, for example, every tea party-backed politician in Congress voted against legislation to provide assistance to the states to pay for teachers, firefighters and vital public services. If they had their way, 300,000 additional jobs would have been lost, adding to the more than 500,000 state and local jobs that have been lost in recent years. The next time a tea party politician tells you that jobs are what they care about, remind them that if it had been up to them, every auto worker at General Motors would be out of work today. And what about the jobs saved or created by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act? They opposed the bill kicking and screaming, yet every thinking economist in the country agrees that it saved or created anywhere from to 2 to 4 million jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-41807258745133208672014-02-06T13:16:15.172-05:002014-02-06T13:16:15.172-05:00A townhall piece to try to back up your arguement?...A townhall piece to try to back up your arguement? Really? That is just another site that is admittedly biased towards conservatives views. Numbers and stats can be spun any way you want. That is why you need to checki with non-partisan Fact Checking sites.<br /><br />What? But they don't verify the claims you are making?<br /><br />For some, truth is a real bummer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-64065027813276561812014-02-06T13:03:56.348-05:002014-02-06T13:03:56.348-05:00The concept of being neutral, or fair, or balanced...The concept of being neutral, or fair, or balanced when it comes to poitics is not a concept people like Tom grasp easily. To them there are two sides, and each side should lie, twist, spin, and fabricate whatesver is necessary to "win". A sad mindset, but one that is way too prevalent.Douglasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-18781059024592281382014-02-06T07:15:34.159-05:002014-02-06T07:15:34.159-05:00No, numbnuts, nobody told you to rely on MSNBC or ...No, numbnuts, nobody told you to rely on MSNBC or Media Matters. Just another example of your habit to twist everything. What was suggested were neutral fact finding sites, including PolitiFact which gave you the unarguable fact of deportations increasing under Obama.<br /><br />Such a shame when facts get in the way of your confused view of the world, huh?<br /><br />I see you just do what all radical extremists do - ignore reality and create your own.<br /><br />Thanks for the entertainment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-72586147233880024292014-02-05T12:35:06.968-05:002014-02-05T12:35:06.968-05:00Thanks CaptDMO. That was a good link. I've bee...Thanks CaptDMO. That was a good link. I've been too busy to argue here lately.<br /><br />Aaron and Anonymous suggest I'm a lazy researcher and that I'd be better off relying on Media Matters or MSNBC I guess.<br /><br />To learn what was happening on the border, I went down there to see for myself. Two columns I wrote then can be found here:<br /><br />http://tommclaughlin.blogspot.com/2010_06_01_archive.htmlTom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-87285186945734319472014-02-05T11:58:49.551-05:002014-02-05T11:58:49.551-05:00Gosh, I guess our host just isn't citing the a...Gosh, I guess our host just isn't citing the authorized "official" version from the Ministry of Truth.<br /><br />There IS THIS<br /><br />http://townhall.com/tipsheet/townhallcomstaff/2014/02/05/immigration-enforcement-in-sharp-decline-despite-obama-administrations-claims-n1787377<br /><br />How come food and fuel "don't count" in figuring average national expenses.?<br /><br />At what point does "the annual defict" become "all better" by simply transferring it to the ASTONISHING "national" debt?<br /><br />CaptDMOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-19852161943095338612014-02-04T15:03:15.093-05:002014-02-04T15:03:15.093-05:00Really, Tom, what good is researching when you onl...Really, Tom, what good is researching when you only use sites who tell you what you want to hear? I see you used the following sources.<br /><br />Mail Online – a right wing British tabloid with a history of reporting inaccuracies.<br /><br />American Thinker – described as Ready-made Propaganda For The Ditto Head Conservative<br /><br />WorldNetDaily - The CEO of this trashy company said "Admittedly, we publish some misinformation by columnists"<br />http://www.salon.com/2011/04/11/joseph_farah_wnd_misinformation/<br /><br /><br />Expand your horizons, Tom. Break out of your self-imposed exile in your Right Wing Opinion Only bubble.<br /><br />Most importantly, think for yourself. Quit rehashing and dittoing goofy propaganda.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-87028098106801503542014-02-04T14:36:20.598-05:002014-02-04T14:36:20.598-05:00Oh, Tom. Haven’t you learned by now not to get al...Oh, Tom. Haven’t you learned by now not to get all your “facts” from biased sources who have agendas? Search through some neutral sites, such as PolitiFact, and you’ll get a more balanced picture.<br /><br />"ICE … has limited resources to remove those illegally in the United States. ICE must prioritize the use of its enforcement personnel, detention space and removal assets to ensure that the aliens it removes represent, as much as reasonably possible, the agency's enforcement priorities, namely the promotion of national security, border security, public safety, and the integrity of the immigration system,".<br /><br />In other words, Tom, we simply don’t have the millions of immigration workers, nor the means to simply round up and throw out all illegal aliens.<br /><br />Experts also told PolitiFact that Obama has ramped up enforcement on some avenues of immigration law.<br />the Obama administration put renewed emphasis on identifying "dangerous criminal aliens" for deportation. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst with the libertarian Cato Institute, said the program was used in about 3 percent of U.S. jurisdictions when Obama took office and is in about 97 percent today.<br /><br />PolitiFact also reports that overall deportations of illegal immigrants have increased during Obama’s term.<br />ICE deported 409,949 immigrants in the 2012 fiscal year, up from 396,096 immigrants in FY 2011 and more than 392,000 immigrants in FY 2010. Those figures all show a steady increase over every year of the Bush administration. <br /><br />At PolitiFact, we have also noted that personnel and other resources to stop illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border have increased dramatically in recent years. The number of border patrol officers more than doubled from about 10,000 to about 21,000 between 2004 and 2012.<br />In 2011, the New York Times reported that ICE started 2,746 workplace investigations, more than double the number in 2008. Fines totaling a record $43 million were levied on companies in immigration cases.<br /><br />You see, Tom? Instead of sounding like a dimwit squacking ridiculously about impeachment, settle down, get the real facts, and do some actual thinking.<br />Is Obama perfect on Immigration? Of course not. But let’s get real.<br />Aaronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-17847224349195403402014-02-03T16:46:29.637-05:002014-02-03T16:46:29.637-05:00Tom you have hit the nail on the head again! Lets ...Tom you have hit the nail on the head again! Lets hope that the House has the backbone to impeach this imposter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11768764493813525696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-68892666108461275062014-02-03T15:46:54.603-05:002014-02-03T15:46:54.603-05:00Slightly related, but if you have the time I stron...Slightly related, but if you have the time I strongly suggest reading this piece about State Disability Benefits: http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/Alexnoreply@blogger.com