tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post133195935684503468..comments2024-02-14T11:00:03.180-05:00Comments on Tom McLaughlin: Stop The Agenda - Vote Yes on Question 1Tom McLaughlinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comBlogger171125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-38036272741250040292010-07-03T15:37:45.924-04:002010-07-03T15:37:45.924-04:00It's funny that you seem to repeatedly state t...It's funny that you seem to repeatedly state that homosexuals ignore science to support the "Agenda", but you yourself seem to selectively ignore studies that provide biological proof that sexual orientation is innate; if studies that homosexuality is related to being raped at a young age (which offer shaky evidence at best) are taken into account, how come studies proving the contrary are not?<br />Also, there's the fact that you seem to believe homosexuals make up the majority of people infected with HIV, I would recommend you update your records a little bit and not just post what you think. In fact, the largest percentage of people infected with HIV are currently heterosexuals. So, since being a majority is so important to you, why instead of naming AIDS back to GRID, why don't we rename it HRID, given that most people infected are Heterosexual?<br />You know, I really pitty ignorant fools who grasp at straws to prove ignorant points, and make up fearful stories of evil minorities cohercing them into acceptance.<br />Poor you.Carlos Riveranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-66439619730329861472009-12-09T00:02:54.824-05:002009-12-09T00:02:54.824-05:00http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/12/...http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/12/the_same-sex_marriage_debate_g/samesexmarriage.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-63437740315669668872009-12-08T15:16:47.004-05:002009-12-08T15:16:47.004-05:00Good, I'm glad we can leave it on friendly ter...Good, I'm glad we can leave it on friendly terms with each of us happy wtih our relationship to our creator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-70717281979885153282009-12-08T14:52:32.923-05:002009-12-08T14:52:32.923-05:00He says that he subscribes to no organized religio...He says that he subscribes to no organized religion.<br /><br />me either. It's not about a religion. It's about a relationship with the God who created you. <br /><br />Yes, let's just agree to disagree then.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-26817580848882062852009-12-08T13:59:28.532-05:002009-12-08T13:59:28.532-05:00Yes, Dylan went through a Christian phase, but it ...Yes, Dylan went through a Christian phase, but it appears he didn't stick with it. Here is a quote of his:<br /><br /><br />"Here's the thing with me and the religious thing. This is the flat-out truth: I find the religiosity and philosophy in the music. I don't find it anywhere else. Songs like "Let Me Rest on a Peaceful Mountain" or "I Saw the Light"—that's my religion. I don't adhere to rabbis, preachers, evangelists, all of that. I've learned more from the songs than I've learned from any of this kind of entity. The songs are my lexicon. I believe the songs."<br /><br />He says that he subscribes to no organized religion.<br /><br />I think it is malarky that we were born to worship. I'm afraid that the more I hear about the bible and what it asks of us I dislike it more and more. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this Dawn. I am happy for you and what religion gives you...it is a shame that you do not feel the same for those that disagree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-78257706792470285862009-12-08T11:38:34.949-05:002009-12-08T11:38:34.949-05:00"I love certain music almost to the point of ..."I love certain music almost to the point of worship but I do not worship the creators of the music - Billie Holiday, Bod Dylan, Mozart, etc. Why should it be different with god? I wouldn't think a god would want to be "worshipped" - it seems quite vain. And to say "worship me or burn in hell"!?! C'mon, I will never believe god would act that way. That is why I believe the bible was written by man."<br /><br />As far as I know Dylan became a Christian, having his eyes opened to the truth as well. <br /><br />We were created to worship. If we don't worship God, we will replace that with a substitute as you mentioned, music, nature etc. <br /><br />The reason we are in such turmoil as a people today is because we are NOT doing what we were created to do. We have turned our backs on the Creator and onto something else. <br /><br />It goes back to the garden..."did God really say?"DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-546970900950003462009-12-08T11:25:02.522-05:002009-12-08T11:25:02.522-05:00Nature worship has always been a popular religion....Nature worship has always been a popular religion. For millennia, people have worshipped the sun, moon, and stars. They've made sacred trees and standing stones into objects of worship. Many people visit the world's natural wonders to "feel close to God," or they believe that God and Nature are more-or-less synonymous. But the Bible warns against worshipping and serving "the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever" (Romans 1:25).<br /><br />God gave us this world to enjoy. We live in a created universe, and we revel in the beauty of God's creative genius. But we must distinguish between the Maker and the made. <br /><br />"My I sincerely ask you what it was that made you "see the light"?"<br /><br />It's a journey really. I looked around, as you're doing and went on a search. When I read the scriptures, examined the evidence (historical, archeological, scientific, testimonial etc) I knew that there's something big here outside of creation. Only then did God open my eyes and perform heart surgery on me. I was a changed person from that day forward. It's walking in the spiritual, not the physical.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-22762450928768430532009-12-07T14:59:46.168-05:002009-12-07T14:59:46.168-05:00Dawn, I am not resisting. I consider myself to be...Dawn, I am not resisting. I consider myself to be a very spiritual person. I open myself up to all possibilities, I meditate, I ponder our existance. My I sincerely ask you what it was that made you "see the light"?<br /><br />Anyways, it is interesting what you say about pantheism; worshipping the creation instead of the creator. I guess in a way you are right. For example I love certain music almost to the point of worship but I do not worship the creators of the music - Billie Holiday, Bod Dylan, Mozart, etc.<br />Why should it be different with god? I wouldn't think a god would want to be "worshipped" - it seems quite vain. And to say "worship me or burn in hell"!?! C'mon, I will never believe god would act that way. That is why I believe the bible was written by man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-1548945213193876802009-12-07T14:41:01.177-05:002009-12-07T14:41:01.177-05:00You're talking physical sight.
I'm talk...You're talking physical sight. <br /><br />I'm talking spiritual sight. We are physical and spiritual people. Only God can open your eyes and he will only do that if you're willing and searching....not rebelling and resisting. <br /><br />That's why I asked you to read the bible because only then can you understand what I'm speaking about. Read Chap 3 & 4 of John...Nicodemus and The woman at the well. They too struggled with the whole idea of spiritual sight and then...they got it! <br /><br />There's nothing wrong with Emerson. But he was just a man who wrote beautiful poetry. The words of scripture are even more beautiful when you understand the meaning behind them. <br /><br />You sound like you're into pantheism; worshipping the creation instead of the creator.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-86278632919831301082009-12-07T13:30:49.353-05:002009-12-07T13:30:49.353-05:00Who is god?
Sorry if the "mother" part ...Who is god?<br /><br />Sorry if the "mother" part through you. I would have just said Nature but I thought you liked to personify things....like god.<br /><br />Believe me, I've looked for evidence that god exists.<br />I'm not blind...just the opposite - my eyes are wide open to the beauty and magnificence of nature. If I saw any evidence that there was a being (which you call god) created and oversees it all I would be glad to believe - it seems like a very reassuring belief to have. Until that happens I will continue to call the creator of nature "Mother Nature".<br /><br />You asked me to read the bible. I'd ask you to read the works of Ralph Waldo Emerson - a book with beautiul words of wisdom. No threats to get you to believe in him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-88483052617657525902009-12-07T11:12:55.600-05:002009-12-07T11:12:55.600-05:00Who's mother nature?
There's plenty of ...Who's mother nature? <br /><br />There's plenty of evidence but only God can give sight to the blind. Ask him yourself. He says any who seek him will find him.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-39350256003197107472009-12-07T09:52:22.049-05:002009-12-07T09:52:22.049-05:00God's fingerprints or mother nature's?
Yo...God's fingerprints or mother nature's?<br /><br />You say for some evidence is not needed....my point exactly - only blind faith is needed with NO evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-60526524476254857852009-12-05T16:00:22.419-05:002009-12-05T16:00:22.419-05:00For some evidence isn't needed...for others th...For some evidence isn't needed...for others there is never enough evidence. <br /><br />Look around you. God's fingerprints are all over the place!DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-42108501778578697312009-12-05T15:20:26.008-05:002009-12-05T15:20:26.008-05:00If you are putting your faith in something that yo...If you are putting your faith in something that you can't prove is true, then it is blind faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-2368134165248149012009-12-04T17:17:49.016-05:002009-12-04T17:17:49.016-05:00who said anything about blind faith?
Are you as...who said anything about blind faith? <br /><br />Are you assuming my faith is blind?DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-66835283402901530402009-12-04T15:28:10.793-05:002009-12-04T15:28:10.793-05:00In other words, Dawn...you have absolutely NO proo...In other words, Dawn...you have absolutely NO proof that the bible was not written by man. Many people have read the bible and gone away believing that it was written by men so obviously reading it is NOT proof. <br /><br /> “Faith... Must be enforced by reason...When faith becomes blind it dies.” <br /> Mahatma Gandhi <br /> <br /><br /><br /> “The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.” <br /> Albert Einstein <br /><br /> “The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry”<br /> Richard DawkinsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-84244615235336691852009-12-04T15:14:50.330-05:002009-12-04T15:14:50.330-05:00"if you can show me any proof that the book w..."if you can show me any proof that the book was not simply written by humans then I will read it over and over."<br /><br />well the proof is in the pudding. You have to eat it to know. The same with the book. You have to read it to see that it reads like no other book ever written. <br /><br />"Many Christians believe that they're doing good deeds when they blow up the abortion clinics or claim that being gay is a sin. I say that god is the judge of what is right and I believe that god does not care who you know, or does not care if you are "born again". <br /><br />More likely many Christians don't believe blowing up abortion clincs are a good thing. In fact, I would say that blowing up a clinic is a sin. Being gay isn't a sin but practicing homosexuality is a sin because God made that quite clear. A man with a man and a woman with a woman is an abomination to God, because it flies in the face of how he created us to be. It's a direct defiance against God's creation.<br /><br />God does care because Jesus said himself..."you MUST be born again" to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-82602449733276527462009-12-04T13:44:38.002-05:002009-12-04T13:44:38.002-05:00Dawn, you can believe anything you wish but that d...Dawn, you can believe anything you wish but that doesn't mean it's right. <br /><br />"What's insane is the fact you believe you can work your way into Paradise with no paremeters"<br /><br />Not what I said, Dawn. I believe the parameters are being good. You believe the parameters are "who you know".<br /><br /><br /> Many Christians believe that they're doing good deeds when they blow up the abortion clinics or claim that being gay is a sin. I say that god is the judge of what is right and I believe that god does not care who you know, or does not care if you are "born again". <br /><br />Am I right? Are you right? We both think we are and there is no proof either way.<br /><br />You keep trying to get me to read the "instruction book". Tell you what Dawn, if you can show me any proof that the book was not simply written by humans then I will read it over and over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-77283768544513429192009-12-04T12:04:52.940-05:002009-12-04T12:04:52.940-05:00"because he has a different set of beliefs. H..."because he has a different set of beliefs. How can you not see the insanity in that?"<br /><br />It's not about our beliefs. It's about God's glory and his declarations to mankind. You can believe anything you wish but that doesn't mean it's right. <br /><br />What's insane is the fact you believe you can work your way into Paradise with no paremeters. Many Muslims believe that they're doing good deeds when they blow up the infidels. Who says that isn't right? That's what they "believe" after all. <br /><br />"Me? I much prefer a place where who you know means diddly squat and it is all about what you do. Sounds like paradise to me!"<br /><br />It doesn't matter what you prefer. You're not in charge. God set the criteria not you. If you're really interested you'd read his instruction book. It's all in there. <br /><br />you know the saying..."when all else fails, read the directions" <br /><br />It's not about "what" we believe...it's about "who" we put our trust in.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-1175420643908486422009-12-03T14:10:27.803-05:002009-12-03T14:10:27.803-05:00Dawn, you seem to be saying that the only thing th...Dawn, you seem to be saying that the only thing that makes one “good enough” to enter heaven is if they are “born again” or not. You say under these conditions Manson could enter heaven, or even Hitler if he was “born again” inside his bunker shortly before he died. But somebody like the Dalai Lama would burn in hell despite being a spiritual person and living an exemplary life because he has a different set of beliefs. How can you not see the insanity in that?<br /><br />The following statement that you made says it all:<br /><br />“It's not about what you do, it's about who you know that's important”<br /><br />YIKES!!!! You are telling me that heaven is like some la-di-dah Hollywood nightclub? It’s no wonder Bush got the Christian vote!!! He is the epitome of it not being about what you do but about who you know!<br /><br />If you are right (and I'm quite sure you are not) then have fun in your vain god's private little Club Heaven....have fun mingling with Manson if he makes the cut.<br /><br />Me? I much prefer a place where who you know means diddly squat and it is all about what you do. Sounds like paradise to me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-82244753844799602832009-12-03T13:16:40.544-05:002009-12-03T13:16:40.544-05:00"Are you saying that if Charles Manson is &qu..."Are you saying that if Charles Manson is "born again" in prison and does all the mumbly jumbly stuff that you believe is required, then he will go to heaven?"<br /><br />I don't know if Charles Manson is "born again." But if he is, yes he will go to heaven. Only God reads the heart. God will not be mocked nor can he be deceived. He knows what's in the heart of man. <br /><br />To say otherwise is to say that Jesus didn't die for all sins but only some of the lesser ones.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-10540979706727713432009-12-03T13:12:03.922-05:002009-12-03T13:12:03.922-05:00"Dawn, what an awful thing to believe that be..."Dawn, what an awful thing to believe that being and doing good is not enough." <br /><br />Think about it. What kind of a God would leave us here with no instruction on how good is good enough? How could you possibly know if you're good enough? <br /><br />Also think about this...do you just let anyone into your home? When you go to the door, in order to let a person in don't you have to know them first? Jesus said many are going to come to him in "that day" seeing entrance into heaven and he's going to say to them..."I don't know you." <br /><br />It's not about what you do, it's about who you know that's important. Jesus said, "follow me." It's not about US being good. It's about HIM being perfect enough to pay for our sin debt.DAWNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-53333357755240097592009-12-03T12:51:40.475-05:002009-12-03T12:51:40.475-05:00Dawn, what an awful thing to believe that being an...Dawn, what an awful thing to believe that being and doing good is not enough. <br /><br />Being good is it's own reward...I have no desire at all to enter a heaven and be in a god's precence who believes the things you believe. <br /><br />Are you saying that if Charles Manson is "born again" in prison and does all the mumbly jumbly stuff that you believe is required, then he will go to heaven?<br /><br />But a good person who doesn't believe what you believe won't. <br /><br />How absurd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-601109149268010292009-12-02T13:33:51.929-05:002009-12-02T13:33:51.929-05:00"Who mentioned good "works"? I said..."Who mentioned good "works"? I said no decent god would send somebody to hell who lived a good life - no matter what they believe when it comes to spirituality and religion."<br /><br />Hello? That is good works. Living a "good" life is all part of good works theology. <br /><br />I don't know what you believe but if you think living a good life all by itself gains entrance into heaven and God's presence you are being deceived. <br /><br />If you have access to a bible I suggest you read Eph 2:8-9.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-37253269639481785262009-11-30T10:21:05.571-05:002009-11-30T10:21:05.571-05:00Neither me, you, or my daughter were around when J...Neither me, you, or my daughter were around when Jesus died on the cross, so he sure didn't die for OUR sins.<br /><br />Who mentioned good "works"? I said no decent god would send somebody to hell who lived a good life - no matter what they believe when it comes to spirituality and religion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com