tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post4451255308005895886..comments2024-02-14T11:00:03.180-05:00Comments on Tom McLaughlin: Left, Right, Forward MarchTom McLaughlinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-60489871119633408942014-02-21T08:05:27.473-05:002014-02-21T08:05:27.473-05:00HA HA HA!!!!
I just came back to check up on if y...HA HA HA!!!!<br /><br />I just came back to check up on if you ever grew a pair of cajones and answered a simple yes or no question.<br /><br />It is so much fun putting an ignorant "know-it-all" in his place!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-69099034880018827572014-02-18T08:31:04.943-05:002014-02-18T08:31:04.943-05:00I urge you all to follow this link.
Sandy hook sh...I urge you all to follow this link.<br /><br />Sandy hook shootimg was staged. It's a lie <br /><br />http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/17/sandy-hook-free-homes-and-big-bucks-incentives-for-leaders-and-players/<br /><br />This is no "conspiracy theory". There are too many facts and coincidences and outright strangeness.<br /><br />Homes in sandy hook given as free Xmas presents, etc. etc.Dr. truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-84995770195381617672014-02-17T12:48:47.779-05:002014-02-17T12:48:47.779-05:00Yeah, i agree with captain DMO. Why should people...Yeah, i agree with captain DMO. Why should people have to answer questions and explain why they think they are right? <br /><br />Why worry about "buts"? Why think through consequences and logical chains of events? What we believe seems good enough for us in theory, so why debate? Debating and answering questions means you are compromising!<br /><br />So just stop thinking so much and accept!!!Another Dittoheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-3677737944076203122014-02-17T09:09:16.336-05:002014-02-17T09:09:16.336-05:00"Well, Tom, I see you are flying the white fl..."Well, Tom, I see you are flying the white flag."<br />Ooooo....failure to "compromise" does NOT equate to submission. <br />A mistake that many criticizing the legislature oftem make when citing "do nothing", when in fact, obstructing stupid is better known as Eternal Vigilence. <br /><br />An answer to just ONE (non sequitur) question?<br />When every response begets "But...but...but.. what about....?? manner of moving the goal posts, (deflection, distraction, appeal to false authority), "one question" is NEVER enough, is it?<br />Especially when the challenge is clearly debunked. I guess it's all about the sport of anonymous antidisestablishment minutia, isn't it?<br />Now, what was the original topic at hand? <br /><br />CaptDMO<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-32728477339138209482014-02-17T08:36:44.480-05:002014-02-17T08:36:44.480-05:00Nope. I'd be satisfied with an actual answer t...Nope. I'd be satisfied with an actual answer to a question.<br />That's all.<br /><br />( and voting doesn't work, hence, yes, we are too stupid. <br />Not only because of the old adage " it's who counts the votes not who votes", especially with electronic voting machines, but choosing one corporate puppet over the other seems a bit naive and dumb. No? )<br /><br />The election of 2000 was a disaster. Fraud occurred and America sat back and took it. Indeed, voting works....I mean, what needs to get worse for you all to actually care?Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-91028279468270815032014-02-17T07:17:34.606-05:002014-02-17T07:17:34.606-05:00Well, Tom, I see you are flying the white flag. W...Well, Tom, I see you are flying the white flag. When you are unable to answer a simple yes or no question then the whole premise of your arguement goes up in smoke. <br /><br />And though you didn't have the guts to answer here, I know you had to answer to yourself.<br /><br />Do ANY of your columns ever stand up to scrutiny and facts??Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-61551346532690440442014-02-16T16:41:07.919-05:002014-02-16T16:41:07.919-05:00You guys won't ever be satisfied until I agree...You guys won't ever be satisfied until I agree with you, which I don't. Accept it.Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-31298628306026651942014-02-16T16:18:17.281-05:002014-02-16T16:18:17.281-05:00No, Tom, I'm not a communist.
Now let me p...No, Tom, I'm not a communist. <br /><br />Now let me put my question into simple YES or NO form.<br /><br />Would you be ok with 4 or 5 families owning 95% of our countries wealth?<br /><br />It is snowballing in that direction.<br /><br />Yes or no, Tom?Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-86985054474489176532014-02-16T11:24:42.451-05:002014-02-16T11:24:42.451-05:00"If" ?? Uhm, so.....right...I forgot. Ev..."If" ?? Uhm, so.....right...I forgot. Everything is ok..<br /><br />"If"? Seriously? <br /><br />If voting worked you wouldn't be writing this column...<br /><br />And still you don't address the questions posed...Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-83369703599610893112014-02-16T10:38:12.490-05:002014-02-16T10:38:12.490-05:00If voting doesn't work, I may have to conclude...If voting doesn't work, I may have to conclude we're too stupid to survive as a republic.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I hold out hope.Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-68080743657873064522014-02-16T09:59:34.081-05:002014-02-16T09:59:34.081-05:00Also, I mentioned civil disobedience and you made ...Also, I mentioned civil disobedience and you made the leap to hyperbolic non sense. Again, you avoid a real issue. Why deflect with hyperbole? Do you not agree with Thoreau? At what point is enough enough for you?<br /><br />Do you really advocate being complacent and doing nothing? really? Just "vote em' out" huh? things will eventually get better as long as you don't really pay attention?<br /><br />Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-87686664074009434322014-02-16T09:54:14.197-05:002014-02-16T09:54:14.197-05:00I'm wondering why a so called educator embrace...I'm wondering why a so called educator embraces a system that was not liked, one bit, by many of the founding fathers. As I have mentioned many many times. Funny you keep avoiding that...<br />Federalist papers nine and ten I believe. And geo Washington hated political parties too.<br /><br />They saw what the potential for what we witness today. Collusion between two supposedly different parties for gain ( making deals) that they could be bought and controlled by big money ( they are) and the ridiculously limited and shallow thinking such a system promotes. And today both partis are merely banker backed corporate cheerleaders. It doesn't matter one iota which party wins! Which goes back to the founding fathers warnings.<br /><br />So, care to explain your capitulation to a corporate banker backed two party system which was detested by the founding fathers for obvious reasons. <br />Winston Smitjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-12481603123801362782014-02-15T12:04:55.302-05:002014-02-15T12:04:55.302-05:00Earl: I'll try to keep this simple, okay? Gove...Earl: I'll try to keep this simple, okay? Government should prevent monopolies through existing anti-trust laws. It should only regulate them in the case of electric utilities and other industries with infrastructure congestion issues.<br /><br />I'm fine with rich people having more than I have, even if you're not. Our Constitution doesn't allow for government to determine how much anyone should have. I support the Constitution. Get it now?<br /><br />Are you a communist Earl?Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-83426490836058851062014-02-15T10:35:11.852-05:002014-02-15T10:35:11.852-05:00"It's not government's place to do an..."It's not government's place to do anything." <br /><br />But wait, Tom, didn't you say that you were glad for government regulating monopolies? They shouldn't do that either?<br /><br />And it seems that you are afraid to get beneath your shallow thinking and really think about the logical consequences. You refuse to answer the question about what should be done about all the wealth moving into the hands of a few. Do you think it is good for our country for 5 families to own 95% of everything? We are already up to 85 people owing more than the lower half of the population combined and continuing to snowball.<br /><br />If you refuse to address this directly yet again, it is obvious that your mind is simply short circuiting in it's rare attempt to think a bit more deeply.Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-69769992476026750732014-02-14T18:39:46.957-05:002014-02-14T18:39:46.957-05:00.."Anon: Corporations gave me my breakfast th....."Anon: Corporations gave me my breakfast this morning, heated my home, made my car and truck, my clothes, the paint on my house, the lumber it's made from, the computer I'm typing on, the pump in my well, the water heater, my shower nozzle, my toilet - all relatively cheaply as well. I love corporations. I'm not jealous of CEO salaries either..."<br />--------<br />Corporations didn't do those things. People did. Human beings. Likely the cheapest possible labor the corporations could buy. Which means more than likely not made by an American. More than likely an underage child was exploited to make it. More than likely the computer you are typing on was made in a factory in china that had to put nets around the building to catch the many workers committing suicide by trying to jump off. Boy, they must really love their jobs, and the corporation driving them to suicide. Heck, as long as we get iPhones heh?<br /><br />And it isn't about being jealous of financial success. It's about applying logic and a sense of morality to the immense responsibility that comes with such wealth... and, not to mention, the mechanisms of a system that promotes lying and cheating. In fact, rewards it. <br /><br />Corporations buy and sell politicians and presidencies. It seems naive to deny that anymore. <br /><br />I'm all for companies producing things, whatever they are, and being successful. But we obviously have a serious problem with how the system functions. And it needs fixed.<br /><br />Corporations aren't people despite what the Supreme Court said. <br />Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-73104480260577688412014-02-14T18:01:13.677-05:002014-02-14T18:01:13.677-05:00Very good point Captain.Very good point Captain.Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-16854143918222424752014-02-14T15:43:20.323-05:002014-02-14T15:43:20.323-05:00"...Corporations gave me my breakfast this mo..."...Corporations gave me my breakfast this morning, etc.etc. - all relatively cheaply as well.<br />They produced mine. I decided to exchange my earnings for the ones I wanted. <br />Currently, Gub'mint, "produces" nothing, at prices and terms I can't negotiate and mandates the purchase under threat of confiscation/imprisonment.<br /><br />All apparently at the whim of the few, the loud, the "special exceptions/protections".<br /><br />Semantics? A bit. <br />"Interpretation", most certainly. <br /><br />CaptDMO Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-62081246096559280512014-02-14T14:19:04.666-05:002014-02-14T14:19:04.666-05:00Earl - It's not government's place to do a...Earl - It's not government's place to do anything. Read the Constitution. It's not very long. Nothing in there about it.<br /><br />Anon: Corporations gave me my breakfast this morning, heated my home, made my car and truck, my clothes, the paint on my house, the lumber it's made from, the computer I'm typing on, the pump in my well, the water heater, my shower nozzle, my toilet - all relatively cheaply as well. I love corporations. I'm not jealous of CEO salaries either.<br /><br />I'm happy, and you can't stand that, right?Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-44259472969754978632014-02-14T11:48:56.522-05:002014-02-14T11:48:56.522-05:00Tom said:
"Businesses make money. That's...Tom said:<br /><br />"Businesses make money. That's what they're in business for. I'm okay with that. If they're successful, we're all successful."<br /><br />So you you don't care about HOW they make money? Misleading consumers? If they are successful, we all are? How do you figure that? There are flourishing businesses in countries under a dictatorship. How does that help the people? And although you have admitted business need to be regulated by the government (I guess we are just arguing over how much regulation - I find your blind trust in corporations to be very naive) you STILL have not directly answered my question about the quick snowballing of wealth into fewer and fewer hands. Which is what is happening. When should government do something about this?<br /><br /><br /><br />Earlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-50106593367079961172014-02-14T08:09:10.772-05:002014-02-14T08:09:10.772-05:00First of all, the cute little "occupy" m...First of all, the cute little "occupy" movement at your school isn't the occupy movement in NYC. Sorry. To equate the two is silly. I mean...really? Were cops in armour marching on you all? Pepper sprayed? In addition, as stated, the corporate media painted a certain picture of the movement. Even making fun of it. Golly gee, why? Could it be the corporate media and banks are somehow related? (Hence my previous comment on naïveté ) and woldnt ya know --- they own some televison stations! I wonder if there is a connection.......hmmm ???<br /><br />Was occupy a success? No. In big part because most people took their cues from the corporate media who had a lot to lose if it was successful....get it? It's a big wicked scary world full of lies and deceipt. Sorry. That's not my fault. And it's not my problem if you can't comprehend that.<br /><br />Yes, I was pretty harsh in my first criticism. I have little patience left for this bs. It's staggering how uniformd the American public is. More concerned with tv and themselves. And is not need the Internet to gain information. They are called books.<br /><br />Finally, I don't know how anyone could claim we have it great right now. Unbelievabe really. Do you realize the rights that we have given up and or have been taken since 9/11? I for one am not ok with that. At all. <br />Do you even know what Ndaa is? you can be put in jail indefinitely now, with NO trial! Yeah, sounds awesome!! We have let obama drone murder two American citiznes with no due process! One was a teenager!! No trial, no jury, just someone saying he was a threat. ( have any clue how many innocent women and children we ve drone murdeered? ask them how great life is). Police violence is at an all time high! You know who kelly Thomas is? Fullerton ca.? Homeless mentally impaired man beaten to death by cops. There was a trial. cops got off. YouTube that video and tell me how great American is. I dare you to try and watch the whole thing. Or, how about spying? The IRS scandal? GMO foods? Poisoned food? fake war of terror? Big pharma poisoning kids and pushing real drugs on us all?<br /><br />We have American banks laundering mexicn drug cartel money! We have marines guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan! look at how our vets are treated! <br /><br />(Oh, by the way, what exactly am I making up? why lie?)<br />And how many bankers went to jail n 08'? Hmmm. None...great system..<br /><br />We cannot provide adequate healthcare!! this is a true shame. The greatest nation on earth can't provide healthcare....eh, no big deal huh?<br /><br />I suppose you enjoy a non federal cabal of international bankers calling themselves the federal reserve printing our money with not only nothing to back it but charging us interest in the form of income tax!! You like paying an income tax you don't actually have to pay?! haha....wow...(but you knew that already right?)<br /><br />I'm not sure what planet you live on. But this one is a complete mess. But I guess you are satisfied with it and our dwindling rights. I guess the bar is set pretty low, huh?<br /><br /><br />Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-69157315524995248922014-02-13T19:10:33.572-05:002014-02-13T19:10:33.572-05:00Winston,
I guess we just disagree about the quote...Winston,<br /><br />I guess we just disagree about the quote thing. As Lincoln said: "Crackpots will be crackpots."<br /><br />"And my assumption was justified. Your original post did not suggest support of the occupy movement."<br /><br />Hm. What I said: "Also, did you have fun at Occupy Wall Street? Civil disobedience does *tons* of work."<br /><br />What you replied: "And the brave souls like yourself actually made fun of people! the banks just buggered you and you didn't have the sac to stand up yet you had the "courage" to point and<br />Laugh?? Hahaha....love your serfdom do you?" "I wasn't at occupy. But I also realize that to parrot the mainstream medias take is silly. To laugh it off as some hippie fest is not only false but childish.<br /><br />So it seems your just another two party lemming with nary an original thought. And I bet real freedom scares the sh@& out of you too...."<br /><br /><br />Let's break this down. Yes, I did not support the movement, because, unlike you, I saw it firsthand. I said it didn't work, which is true. Prove me wrong there. Your reply made assumptions about my intelligence, political leanings, and courage. So yes, you made unjustified assumptions. Basically, Winston, I'm saying that you are an unintelligent, crazy wingnut, who latches onto whatever "free though" ideas he can get his hands on off the internet. See, assumptions are fun! I wonder how an average day goes for you:<br /><br />Winston gets up in his heated house, and uses his running water to take a shower and brush his teeth. Maybe he gets on his laptop (!!!!!) and uses the internet (!!!!) to look up some crackpot theories. He probably makes himself some food (!!!). I don't know, maybe he's old, and has diabetes, and manages it with his doctor (!!!!). Do you see what I'm getting at here? Please name me one civilization in the history of the world that didn't have it's fair share of problems ( or people like you to make them up), and had the amount of freedom and amenities we do today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-71103252341221985722014-02-13T17:07:51.298-05:002014-02-13T17:07:51.298-05:00And my assumption was justified. Your original pos...And my assumption was justified. Your original post did not suggest support of the occupy movement.<br /><br />Please........Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-3408186688202928552014-02-13T17:06:31.406-05:002014-02-13T17:06:31.406-05:00First of all, no it does not matter. The message m...First of all, no it does not matter. The message matters. the actual quote. Einstein is often attributed to making it. Hence my reference. I never fact checked as it doesnt matter if he said iit or not.It doesn't matter to me at all. Doesn't matter if Einstein or farmer john said it. <br /><br />Secondly, sorry, no we don't have it good alright now. At all. Neither do the people we keep murdering. Such a statement only proves your naïveté and compliance with corporate media non sense that passes as "news". <br /><br />And maybe I would got to Somalia or Afghanistan if I didn't fear obama dropping a drone bomb on me. Haha....Winston Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-23380219523479870492014-02-13T15:57:12.096-05:002014-02-13T15:57:12.096-05:00Businesses make money. That's what they're...Businesses make money. That's what they're in business for. I'm okay with that. If they're successful, we're all successful.<br /><br />I question the wisdom of free-trade laws that allowed them to ship what were good American manufacturing jobs overseas. Perhaps we can repeal some.<br /><br />Anti-trust laws are good and I support them. Monopolies have always been bad for the economy.<br /><br />We have laws against child porn and it looks like they're vigorously enforced. Good again.<br /><br />If corporations buy politicians and people keep voting for them, the voters deserve what they get. If a majority of American voters are foolish enough to be manipulated by corporate money or wealthy donor money, then maybe we're too stupid to survive.Tom McLaughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691546351143209227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20524196.post-76116443254413915412014-02-13T15:11:13.075-05:002014-02-13T15:11:13.075-05:00"I don't see that government should inter..."I don't see that government should interfere with how people earn money, or how much they earn. "<br /><br />So government should allow people to make money however they want? Child porn? Pretending their products aren't poisonous? Ah, so you do think the government needs to step in and regulate sometimes. <br /><br />How much they earn? You would be fine with a company cornering the market on water, or wheat, or corn, and charging outrageous prices because they have a monopoly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com